Lot # : 28 - WW1 BRITISH WAR POSTER DADDY WHAT DID YOU DO WWI
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| Lot # | 28 |
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| Estimate | 800.00 - 1,200.00 USD |
| Group - Category | Antiques & Collectibles - Militaria & War Collectibles - World War I |
| Lead | WW1 BRITISH WAR POSTER DADDY WHAT DID YOU DO WWI |
| Description |
Period framed poster by Savile Lumley (died 1949) Daddy what do YOU do in the Great War ? original Parliamentary Recruiting Committee poster No 79 printed by Johnson Riddle & Co Ltd circa March 1915 - 76 x 51 cm. The title of this now famous poster was one of the most memorable amongst the World War 1 posters. The idea for this design came to the owner of the printing company Johnson Riddle he had wondered what the outcome of not volunteering might be after the war was over following the posters publication he volunteered. The poster, although popular, was later criticized on the grounds of distortion and exploitation. "Daddy, what did you do in the Great War?" was a British First World War recruitment poster by Savile Lumley, and first published in March 1915 by the Parliamentary Recruiting Committee. It was commissioned and submitted to the committee by Arthur Gunn, the director of the publishers Johnson Riddle and Company. The poster shows a daughter posing a question to her father: "Daddy, what did YOU do in the Great War?", depicting a future from the perspective of viewers in 1915. The message of the poster was inspired by Gunn's own feelings of guilt around not fighting in the war. Unlike other recruitment posters of the time which focused on more direct calls to action, the poster used indirect messaging to persuade men to enlist in the army at a time when conscription was not yet a policy in Great Britain. Although the poster is now considered an icon of British history during the First World War, it was not one of the most circulated recruitment posters and there was some contemporary backlash to its message.Background: Recruitment for the First World War was different from prior wars, which had been fought by the regular professional army. At the outbreak of war, Britain did not have a policy of conscription. The Parliamentary Recruitment Committee, chaired by the Prime Minister, Herbert Asquith, organized an extensive official recruitment campaign to encourage men to enlist in the army. The number of new recruits declined from November 1914 to September 1915 as the optimism initially felt during the early period of the war declined. The Parliamentary Recruitment Committee altered the approach taken by their posters, moving towards guilt and patriotism as motivators for men to enlist. There were 1.4 million new volunteers in 1915, up from 1 million in 1914, and approximately 30 percent of military-aged men had volunteered for military service. Publication history: Poster with five questions listed, one of which is "What will you answer when your children grow up, and say, 'Father, why weren't you a soldier, too?'" The Voluntary Recruiting Publicity Committee's January 1915 poster, "5 Questions to men who have not enlisted", was an initial inspiration for the message in "Daddy, what did you do in the Great War?" "Daddy, what did you do in the Great War?" was neither designed nor commissioned by the Parliamentary Recruitment Committee. In November 1914, a Voluntary Recruiting Publicity Committee was convened whose purpose was to unofficially design recruitment posters and submit the works to the Army Council. The committee had seven members and was headed by publisher and advertising executive Hedley Le Bas. Some of the committee's posters were accepted for wider circulation and they also featured in donated sections of newspapers. The publication of "Daddy, what did you do in the Great War?" was the result of iterations of posters with similar themes, designed by the committee. Thomas Russell, advertising consultant and one of the members of the committee, designed a poster which was released in January 1915 titled "5 Questions to men who have not enlisted". One of the questions, "What will you answer when your children grow up, and say, 'Father, why weren't you a soldier, too?'", impressed Le Bas, who approached a magazine to create a cartoon based on the slogan; the resulting strip featured the question "Daddy, why weren't you a soldier during the war?" accompanied with the subheading "In years to come you may be asked this question. Join the Army at once, and help to secure the glorious Empire of which your little son will be a citizen". A further iteration featured a boy scout asking the question: "Father, what did you do to help when Britain fought for freedom in 1915?" The idea for the poster "Daddy, what did you do in the Great War?" came from Arthur Gunn, the director of publishers Johnson Riddle and Company. He related to the message due to his own feelings of guilt, having not enlisted to fight. He commissioned artist John Savile Lumley to create a poster which framed the question within a domestic setting. Upon seeing a sketch of the poster, Gunn signed up to the Westminster Volunteer Cavalry. Gunn took the poster to the Parliamentary Recruitment Committee who approved it for official publication as PRC no. 79. Design: Description: "Daddy, what did you do in the Great War?" has a simple composition. A man sits on an armchair looking out at the viewer with a distant expression. A girl (his daughter) sits on his lap with a book, while a boy plays with toy soldiers on the floor near the chair. The title, in white cursive text, is at the bottom of the poster. The image is surrounded by a black border. The poster used a complicated printing process involving eight different color printings. Unlike many other First World War recruitment posters, which were typified by simple imagery and words, "Daddy, what did you do in the Great War?" has more detailed drawings with an elegant design. Propaganda: Psychology as a scientific discipline and the concept of advertising were both in their infancy at the start of the First World War. The war necessitated a use for psychological advertising—a method to control and influence the entire population, rather than targeting one specific audience for a commercial product. "Daddy, what did you do in the Great War?" was one of a number of posters which used psychology as a method to advertise the army to men. In contrast to other recruitment posters which were a direct call to action, "Daddy, what did you do in the Great War?" was less direct in its messaging. The poster does not promise that the potential recruit's life upon enlisting will improve nor does it sell them anything; guilt is the main emotion pushed by the image. Depicting a future from those viewing it in 1915, the poster assumes that men at the time would be thinking ahead to the future. It implies that if they did not enlist, they would face humiliation back home, including from their own children. The poster's image of domesticity suggests to the viewer that men had to fight to preserve familial life. Author Karyn Burnham writes that propaganda posters of the time "presented a carefully crafted image of manhood defining 'real' men as those who fought for their families, for King and Country." She cites this poster as an example of an image that prompted men to assess their self-worth. Reception: Although "Daddy, what did you do in the Great War?" is now one of the most famous First World War recruitment posters, it was not initially popular. There were 13 other posters published by the Parliamentary Recruitment Committee in 15 March and "Daddy, what did you do in the Great War?" was not selected to be published in newspapers or as a cigarette card. It was not among the most-produced posters by the Parliamentary Recruitment Committee. The poster became famous after the war was over and became an icon of the war. Nicholas Hiley writes that posters like "Leete's 'Kitchener Wants You' and Lumley's 'Daddy, what did you do in the Great War?' are famous because we want them to be famous, not because they give us access to the dominant emotions of the recruiting campaign". French historians Stéphane Audoin-Rouzeau and Annette Becker have written that the campaign of propaganda during the war, including what they describe as the "guilt-inducing and brutal messages" such as "Daddy, what did you do in the Great War?" was not the only reason that men signed up to fight. There is evidence that recruiters realised that the guilt-inducing approach may actually have been counterproductive. "Daddy, what did you do in the Great War?" was not representative of how a lot of men and families perceived the war—many working class people were not trusting of the recruitment campaign in general and other contemporary viewers disliked the over-confident messaging. War opponents of the time scorned the poster and its shaming message. Robert Smillie, an Irish-born Scottish trade union leader, co-founder of the Scottish Labor Party, and a close friend of anti-war activist Keir Hardie, said that his reply to the question of the little girl in the poster would have been, "I tried to stop the bloody thing, my child." Savile Lumley eventually renounced the poster due to the scale of criticism directed towards it. Men fighting on the front found dark humor in the poster's message, with some hanging the poster up in the trenches where they served, often leaving graffitied answers to the daughter's question. The poster was satirised in a poem published in the Lancashire Fusiliers' magazine: What did you do in the Great War, Dad? Please Daddy, tell us, do: For they censor all your letters. So we know they can't be true. In the year before the Second World War, artist E. H. Shepard parodied the poster in a cartoon drawn in opposition to the policy of appeasement: "What are you going to do in the Great Peace, Daddy?
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